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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Wow, that was really good, the pacing was fast, but I thought it fit, The fast pacing really complimented your cartoony style of animating.  The animation in this was very smooth, realistically, i Thought this was much better the The River.  And I agree with what Garret said about the pacing, fast is better then slow.  Now I'm going to watch it again.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[BWJC]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[bwjclego@gmail.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/1527/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-06-25T19:27:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Thanks for the advice Garrett. Lighting was a real problem with this film. I shot the last scene first and had trouble getting the camera setup. I didn't realise until after I had shot most of that scene that the camera had reset exposure and gain settings. 
I now have a half decent light setup so I don't have an excuses left. As for the direction, that is my weakness. Many of the positions and angles in Cyclic were to accomodate the sets. I have only a modest amount of free bricks.
Thanks again I really appreciate any help I can get.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bodville]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/422/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-11T09:34:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/137909/#p137909</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Great Work Boddy!

I really like your style, don't put too much into what Smeagol was saying about pacing.  No offense Smeagol (I highly respect your work!) but most of your films, and most brickfilms in general, move too slow for my tastes.  Granted, if you look at the few things I've produced, I also lean heavily in favor of too much too fast.  But on the whole, that is the better mistake, too fast means you have to watch it again.  Too slow means you lose interest half way through...

I have been a secret fan of yours for a while, so my only real critique has to do with lighting quality and shot angles.  It seems like your color balance is off in some scenes, and things are just a little too bright and saturated.  This can be a stylistic choice, but it's a little harsh on the eyes, literally, as in physically.  Not all of your work is like this, did something happen or change?  It is also pretty flat lighting, and the angles chosen don't necessarily model the forms of your sets or figures as well as they could either.

Just food for thought on an otherwise spectacular short.  Animation was great, clever work at the end all the way around.  You all do a great job voicing the figs... and yes, I too want to know the story behind the bots!]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Garrett]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/1191/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-11T01:09:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/137884/#p137884</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Cyclic is definitely one of my favorite brickfilms.
As I said before.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rusty]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/741/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-10T23:17:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/137870/#p137870</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[It has taken too long but much of the music heard in the film CYCLIC has been professionally mastered and now released.
The title song is called "The Leather Muppet". So despite what Leo thinks, Rob's music is fricken awesome, go and listen to it.

Click the thumbnail for the iTunes link. Go get some!

[url=http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-doorway-in-the-darkness/id369582860][img=The Doorway In the Darkness, Rob Stanley]http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/046/Music/9b/f2/16/mzi.lxbohnkt.100x100-75.jpg[/img][/url]]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[bodville]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/422/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-05-10T12:19:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/137779/#p137779</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[^^^
I don't mind bumping on a film, but please, say something GOOD instead of ''THIS IS MY FAVOURITE FILM'' :mad:]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[T.G-Tom]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[tom.gudde@gmail.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/89/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-10-10T20:57:29Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/86680/#p86680</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Dude, that's now my favorite brickfilm!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Rusty]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/741/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-10-10T20:28:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/86675/#p86675</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Very nice animated must of took long to do the cyclic animation]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ogel productions]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/183/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-18T21:37:05Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/75002/#p75002</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/74236/#p74236"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I like what you did with the robots/droids, specifically to show emotion.  It is so hard to get these actors to show frustration, curiosity, etc.  nicely done.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[brickmaniac4]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/914/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-16T20:26:29Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/74236/#p74236</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/72555/#p72555"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[You will won that contest. :yes:]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Paweł Kamiński HWS]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/566/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-11T22:40:14Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/72555/#p72555</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/71433/#p71433"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Donsalvatore]By the way, it was featured on TBB. Congrats!

-Don[/quote]
And Euro Bricks.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[randomparrot]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/77/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-08T12:59:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/71433/#p71433</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/71428/#p71428"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[By the way, it was featured on TBB. Congrats!

-Don]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Donsalvatore]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/37/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-08T12:25:29Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/71428/#p71428</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/71422/#p71422"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I only just got around to watching this, and I love it.

I love your fast paced 24fps style of animating and the cartoony feel it gives. however, this is a double edged sword because as many people have already said, it risks leaving the viewer bewildered as to what just happened.

Still, I wouldn't hesitate to give this one 4 stars. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and I've enjoyed watching your animation improve as your films keep coming and coming.

Quite an accomplishment, well done!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Siobhan]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/21/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-08T12:06:42Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/71422/#p71422</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/70344/#p70344"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=bodville]Pacing is still an issue in my films but I'm getting better I hope? I slowed things down quite a lot I thought by having some dialogue to contrast the action. I have trouble making any serious drama with Lego characters they just look too funny and almost like a cartoon.[/quote]

Yeah I added the "in some places" note as I was reviewing because some sequences - like the scene about Scrabble, and the opening - slowed down quite a bit.  This almost made the sudden shifts to faster pacing a little more jarring.  The action was at times a little too fast to follow on a first viewing for me, the same issue I had with [i]Train 2 Catch[/i] except that it's much less apparent here because it's only for short bursts where as in that film there was no slowing down from start to finish.

I agree about the serious drama with minifigs part, it is why I never try for anything totally serious in my films.  ([i]Bane of the Sith[/i] is sort of an exception, but [i]Unrenewable[/i] is meant to be humorous in presentation, with a more serious meaning)]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Sméagol]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/28/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-04T19:58:56Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/70344/#p70344</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: STAR: CYCLIC]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/70199/#p70199"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[This is what I like about BIM, feedback. I can put a film up on YouTube and get 300 smilie faces as comments.
Thanks for taking the time Smeagol. I appreciate that this isn't your style of film but your insight is still very valuable.
Pacing is still an issue in my films but I'm getting better I hope? I slowed things down quite a lot I thought by having some dialogue to contrast the action. I have trouble making any serious drama with Lego characters they just look too funny and almost like a cartoon. 

I tried some new roads with Cyclic but the pirate scene was shot last and when time got short I defaulted back to the zany hectic cartoon pace I love. It also gave me an excuse to use more of Rob's music. He sent me almost 20 minutes of Metal to use and it's hard to mix that back under some dialogue. Metal should be loud.

So delibrate only in the sense that this pace is mostly how I like it. I'm too close to it to be critical and it's so hard to find a critic.
"Hey do you want to see my new stop-motion film made with Lego bricks?" The people I work with think I'm quite special already. I send out a preview in the email system and get 12 smilie faces reply back. I think they are too scared to engage in conversation about it.
The other day the boardroom had the big boss, a client and my project manager in there for a meeting. When I walked past they were all pissing themselves laughing so I stuck my head in the door, they were watching Cyclic. The client loved it.

The only thing I was concious of was I had to make it engaging enough to watch again. Hence the cycle gets repeated.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[bodville]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/422/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-08-04T11:42:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/70199/#p70199</id>
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