Topic: reactive lighting

I've been honestly up for the past 8 hours trying to figure out some post vfx, and it's been killing me.

I've done the fire effect however the fire is moving with the minifig and I want to put in reactive lighting to allow that light to shine on the minifig to make it look realistic (It's a night scene) I understand how to do the reactive lighting what I don't understand is how do I do it when the minifig is moving in every frame?

Please if someone could get back to me asap to tell me how to do this that would be awesome..

I tried keyframing it, but it doesn't work.

I just duplicated my composition, moved it to the top and then pressed add I then drew the were I wanted the lighting all thats done.

Also when I shorten the top composition with the reactive lighting the pics go all weird, what can I do for this?

Is there another faster way?

Please I'd love to know as I said honestly, I'm being do this for the last 8 hours.. Its been really stressful.

Sincerely,
Divine.

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Re: reactive lighting

Can anyone provide me with an answer?

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Re: reactive lighting

You've missed out some key details that would help people understand what you're trying to do and how to help you.

What software are you using? How are you doing the reactive lighting? Can you reword "I just duplicated my composition, moved it to the top and then pressed add I then drew the were I wanted the lighting all thats done" in a way that makes sense? What does "shorten the top composition" mean? In what way do the pics go weird?

And so on.

Re: reactive lighting

It would also be quite helpful to provide some actual images so we can see what you are doing and what isn't working.

Re: reactive lighting

My sincere apologizes to Oldscratch and BertL.

Oldscratch I'm using After effects for post work, I am doing the reactive lightning by pressing on the original composition and then copying it and pasting it again, hence duplicating it. I then dragged the duplicated composition to the top and then changed the mode from normal to add.

I then used a paint brush to circle off just were I want the reactive lighting to be applied. It goes weird because the minifig is moving the reactive lighting just stays where I originally made the circle for the reactive lighting so as my character moves my main problem was the reactive lighting circle I made doesn't move with him.

It also goes weird as when I shorten the duplicated composition it overlays on other images from the original composition.

I hope this makes better sense, also here are the images and the video to the file. 

And is there another way of doing this kind of lighting? Can motion tracking be used with this to follow the character and how would it work?

http://i59.tinypic.com/n478sg.jpg

Also here is the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_I0E4SxOY


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Divine.

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Re: reactive lighting

I've responded to both of you, and still haven't heard nothing back.

Could someone or one of you's please respond to how I can achieve the reactive lighting? It's very important too me and I can't find the answer anywhere just briefly to tell me how it can be done while a minifig is moving or turning.

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Divine.

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Re: reactive lighting

You are never going to be able to achieve perfect fake lighting from the torch unless you recreate this scene in 3D space, track a light source to the torch, then composite the rendered light layers over the top.

This is very difficult to achieve.

Your best bet is to track the torch in ae (you will already have a track for the torch)

Add a light and camera to the scene

Colour pick the the colour of the torch for the light

Parent light to the torch

Now duplicate your base layer, make it 3D and turn on accept lights.

for more control, roto the minifig and create a matte for it, then isolate the light.

Honestly it seems like you want perfect 'reactive' lighting as you  call it, but this wont be possible without a lot of hard work.

Re: reactive lighting

What if you just panted on every frame?

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Re: reactive lighting

Rsteenoven,

Thanks for your response, I read through it but am unfamiliar with your terms, are you able to give instructions on how to do what your explaining and where they are it'd be so much easier, and I could make attempt to it.

Telling me in these hard terms makes it very difficult on my part, but of course I do appreciate it.

is it really this hard to do for a simple effect?

I really am confused with some of your terms, parent light to torch?

How do you make a layer 3D?

I really don't know these things so if you could write a brief simple instruction that'd be awesome. As I'd love to do the effect and learn it.

Osomstudios, what do you mean by panted? If you mean painted no you can't I attempted this and it didn't work. I think it may be possible but the way I did it didn't work.

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Re: reactive lighting

Can you live without it? Otherwise, reshoot the thing with a physical light instead doing it in post since you seem too new to the post-prod effect to even know the terms being used.

To track the light's effect on the set would be too time consuming at this point and why just reactive light? If you're going to track how light bounces off the figs, you might as well track reflections on the walls if you want to be this consistent.  You're setting too high of a standard for this flick.

Maybe a screenvideo of what you've done that you say you've failed to do or provide examples of what you envision would clarify things.

Sincerely--Wait, why am I writing this like a letter? Might as well send it via pigeon.

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Re: reactive lighting

Start by watching some basic tutorials on how to use After effects, Divine.

The terminology I used is basic for the software so you really need to familiarize yourself with the program first.


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Rich

Re: reactive lighting

Divine wrote:

Rsteenoven,


Osomstudios, what do you mean by panted? If you mean painted no you can't I attempted this and it didn't work. I think it may be possible but the way I did it didn't work.

Sincerely,
Divine.

In Gimp you could pant every frame in the place you want with a semi transparent paint. [the paint makes it makes it look brighter] Also have you tried Googling it to see if there are any tutorials you could watch to see how other people do it?

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Re: reactive lighting

No one will do this for you because doing ithe in AE would be harder then resorting the whole scene with a light on the torch.  That is the long and short of it, if reshooting is to hard why would you spend even more time on a digital fix that would be harder and take more time and effort then that?

Re: reactive lighting

Thanks for all your comments.

I'll take it all into consideration for future reference.

Sincerely,
Divine.

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