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Divine wrote:

Lol freedom of expression took a hit ahaha mini/lol  That was a good one mini/tongue

And Dewfilms that was heaps funny lol

We need more funny stuff like this lmao!

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Paramount, which owns the film, forced movie theatres to pull it or face legal action.

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The film has been released on youtube.

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Though you have to pay to view it, as you'd expect. And it's US only. Anyone watched it yet?

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As much as I'm fascinated by this story, I have no interest in the film!  But it's good to see Sony get the last laugh.  It's on a few of the alternatives to YouTube as well, I'm happy to report.

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I find it strange that people now care about censorship in film yet the MPAA has been doing this for years.

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I hate how The Interview has gone from dumb comedy to the thing that might end the world to cultural rallying point. Everyone is lining up to watch this movie not because they actually want to see it, but because they think they're both sticking it to North Korea (when there still isn't conclusive evidence that they're behind this) and nobly protecting the right of free speech - because America is such a free, anti-totalitarian nation as Ed Snowden proved last year.

It's like when people share a hashtag trend promoting water aid or something. Then a little sound plays on your computer and a message pops up saying "Congratulations! You Have Cured All Poverty Forever!"

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Aqua Morph, the MPAA doesn't actually censor films.  It rates them only.  A director who doesn't like the rating it receives may change the content personally  to try for another rating, but the MPAA rates movies only and does not change/censor the content.

Max, I could not agree with your above post in its entirety more!  Your entire point is right on the mark.  I've remained unchanged.  As much as I've been curious about this story, I'm no more interested in watching the movie as I was the day I began this thread.  I actually began this because I know BiM people are heavy movie goers and I didn't want to see any of my forum friends get hurt or worse.  At this point in the long, winding drama this story became, I'm just glad that whoever the terrorists are, their censorship attempt ultimately did not succeed.

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Aqua Morph, the MPAA doesn't actually censor films.  It rates them only.  A director who doesn't like the rating it receives may change the content personally  to try for another rating, but the MPAA rates movies only and does not change/censor the content.

What AquaMorph is probably getting at is that an MPAA rating determines which major theater chains you can get your film shown at. NC-17? AMC and Regal sure aren't going to screen your film (those two alone own roughly 30% of the screens in the US). Even on a more moderate level, drop a few F-bombs and that R rating is going to keep unaccompanied minors from buying tickets to your film, regardless of whether their parents gave them permission. I don't really feel like going into the silly metrics the MPAA uses to determine their ratings, but I think it's fair to say that they do a better job of keeping people from seeing films in the US than any foreign power could.

I like the idea of being able to know about the content of a film ahead of time, but the end result of the MPAA system is that creators and producers are scared away from making art with content the MPAA is going to find objectionable. If someone is being told they have to change the content of their film or be blacklisted from major cinemas in the US, that's censorship. Private, financially driven censorship, but still the "act of suppressing speech or writing that is considered subversive of the common good".

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If a theater chain won't show a movie, it's not censorship as much as the free market.  Again, the MPAA doesn't tell people to change their films, or blacklist artists.  But I do understand the point from AquaMorph.  It's just me putting too fine a point on things.  I gotta learn not to be so literal!  It's one of my faults.  Now, Hollywood does a good job blacklisting their own independently without the MPAA's help.  But that's really something for another forum and getting waaay off topic.

I like how the BiM community self-rates its films.  I also think that we should, as a network of people here with common interests, read each others' film pages for their releases, and if we feel someone else's film is misrated, we ought to suggest to the director why they think a rating should be different.  I actually tend to overrate my films just to be on the safe side.  I rated one episode of my series "mild sexual content for mentioning a naked Barbie doll and naked Lego (in the "yellow").  Just don't want any parents with young kids to be unpleasantly surprised.

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HoldingOurOwn wrote:

If a theater chain won't show a movie, it's not censorship as much as the free market.  Again, the MPAA doesn't tell people to change their films

Are you familiar with MPAA rating system? The idea that they don't tell people to change their films is transparently false; they've been very unpredictably arbitrary with assigning ratings on many occasions, and it is necessary to get certain ratings in order to be able to sell your film. Some elaboration.

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HoldingOurOwn wrote:

Again, the MPAA doesn't tell people to change their films, or blacklist artists.

The MPAA is made up of representatives from major film studios (Disney, Sony, etc...) so when you say:

HoldingOurOwn wrote:

Now, Hollywood does a good job blacklisting their own independently without the MPAA's help.

...you're describing the MPAA. It's a Hollywood organization using Hollywood money to promote Hollywood films and values. They have financial ties to major theater chains and they use those ties to keep the MPAA rating system in effect. They dictate the standards for ratings, which, because of the monetary ties to the distribution system, ultimately affect where and to what audiences the films are shown. That the whole thing is a result of the free market doesn't keep this from being a form of censorship.

For posterity my use of the word blacklist in:

I wrote:

If someone is being told they have to change the content of their film or be blacklisted from major cinemas in the US, that's censorship.

was in reference to the film, not the artist, and confusion in that regard is my fault for not being more precise.

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Hollywood blacklists actors over personal beliefs.  Many meet in secret to socialize while avoiding the blacklist.  Most of their identities aren't known.  I don't want to get this more off-topic than it is, though.  Instead, I will post a link for those interested in the subject, or to ignore if you're not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Abe
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01 … two-years/

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