Topic: Preparing for Thac Early? Yay or Nay?

I've come across quite a few people now who, like me, prepare for thac before Thac has arrived. What I mean is many of us build some sets of different themes (WildWest, Medieval, Etc) and also write down short ideas for Thac before we even know the theme on the day of. Do you feel it is fair to prepare for Thac before it even starts?

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Try and keep this discussion friendly and clean, I know some don't agree with what I and others are doing by preparing pre-Thac.

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Re: Preparing for Thac Early? Yay or Nay?

I'm speaking here as a former THAC participant, not as the current THAC runner. Nothing said here is an official rule for THAC XII!

Personally, I always found it against the "spirit" of THAC to do any sort of preparation beyond making sure your LEGO is sorted, your studio is clean and your software is up to date. I know I'm in the minority, but I always found building the sets during the contest as part of the fun of the challenge. Also, trying to come up with story ideas without knowing the theme seems like a fruitless endeavor. You're either stuck with ideas that don't work and distract you, or you are trying to force an idea to a theme that might not mesh.

The challenge is to make the best film that you can in 24 hours, not 24 hours plus however many hours you spent building sets or whatever. Honestly, if there was a way I could enforce a "no pre-building rule" I'd consider it but there's absolutely no way that would happen, so it won't ever happen.

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Nathan Wells wrote:

I'm speaking here as a former THAC participant, not as the current THAC runner. Nothing said here is an official rule for THAC XII!

Personally, I always found it against the "spirit" of THAC to do any sort of preparation beyond making sure your LEGO is sorted, your studio is clean and your software is up to date. I know I'm in the minority, but I always found building the sets during the contest as part of the fun of the challenge. Also, trying to come up with story ideas without knowing the theme seems like a fruitless endeavor. You're either stuck with ideas that don't work and distract you, or you are trying to force an idea to a theme that might not mesh.

The challenge is to make the best film that you can in 24 hours, not 24 hours plus however many hours you spent building sets or whatever. Honestly, if there was a way I could enforce a "no pre-building rule" I'd consider it but there's absolutely no way that would happen, so it won't ever happen.


Very wise words Nathan, I find the things I do are minor and I'm half half with this yay nay thing, I do clear my studio, make sure my software is up to date and working good, get my After effects presets sorted, etc. I also find myself jotting down ideas for little bits sometimes and I do sketch out set designs before hand in case they are something I might use (not building, just sketching in a notebook).

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I am probably not going to build any sets before hand. This is my first THAC, and I am going in totally un-prepared. Sounds like a plan doesn't it? mini/tongue

I am still in the process of cleaning my room (It got really messy from my last video and from Christmas). I am not building sets, but I am building props. Today, I built two couches in case I do a living-room scene or something like that, and I plan on making a reclining chair if I have time. Building props that I can use in many different films is good. I have a bed, some couches, I'm working on a desk, maybe make a coffee table... I don't know exactly what I will build, but as I organize my bricks and clean my room, I get creative and build things.

Aside from making sets and props, I am preparing for THAC in other ways. For example, I am planning my meals for Saturday (I know, it's only Monday, but I've got to prepare!). I'm going to have Hamburgers, Coke, Peanuts, so far. mini/tongue (Now, before you say it's a lot of junk food, I'm going to say that I'm offsetting it by eating healthy things and drinking water too... I just haven't figured out what healthy things I want to eat yet. mini/tongue ). I'm also going to try to animate a test sequence so I can make sure that the new version of DigiCamControl works and also make sure that my lamps are still shining brightly.

I don't think that coming up with story ideas early is a good idea. Last month, I was thinking about making another film revolving around Captain D. Rom from my BRAWL film, but now I'm not sure. The only reason that I used Captain D. Rom in my BRAWL film was because of the theme Development. He may not fit in the THAC theme. I may make an alien movie, or a western, or a museum, or a film that uses only trees, bushes, and flowers for characters!

I'll be watching this topic to see if anyone posts any tips here, because I can use all the help I can get, with this being my first THAC. mini/wink

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Confession: all of my THAC entries (Cashman, Cashman 3, The Pepperonis, and Cashman 2 which I ran out of time to finish by a couple hours) were thoroughly planned beforehand as far as the premise, characters, and sets. I made up the dialog and story on the day to some extent, accommodating the theme for that year. Cashman 2 was the one I got most adventurous with on the day; it wasn't originally going to have Obama and the Oval Office in it but I came up with that idea halfway through filming.

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And here I thought THAC was just about crapping out another sequel to Cashman, when in reality most of it was pre-planned.

You disappoint me, Philip. mini/sad

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I'd only add that I did the preparation quickly. It was usually all thrown together the night before, not over days or weeks. Part of the fun of THAC to me is the short-term nature of it.

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And here I thought THAC was just about crapping out another sequel to Cashman, when in reality most of it was pre-planned.

You disappoint me, Philip. mini/sad

And here I thought that the THAC results were rigged every time a Cashman brickfilm was entered into the contest because of the fact that Smeags would unleash his administrative rage on the judges if otherwise.

Curse you, Philip. mini/twitch

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Re: Preparing for Thac Early? Yay or Nay?

Didn't know you could do that. Like, make sets and premises and characters and stuff?

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I used pre-made sets and props in all of my three THAC entries, and truth be told the pre-made pier is probably one of the biggest reasons I was able to win with A Night at the Pier. Ever since True Love Waits (the original THAC cut of that film is long lost) I have had a loose idea of what I plan to film in my head before the theme is announced and I have never had a hard time working in the theme to the script I write.

I take an INSANE amount of time to build sets and light them so having the majority of the sets constructed before had allows me to focus on animation. Plus if live action film makers aren't required to build sets from scratch on a sound stage for there 48 hour film festivals why should we have to build sets for our 24 hour stop motion contest when stop motion is already SO MUCH SLOWER.

This year is no different, I am working on two sets, nether of witch are finished but both are close:
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Oh, come on, Sloth, that's not fair! Nobody can even hold a candle to the sets and lighting you have! mini/tongue

I've build a few props, I might work on a set or two tomorrow, I don't know. It's according to if I am going to pick a general idea now, or wait. It sort of seems I already picked a theme, because I just built a bunch of police-themed stuff (I also build a few couches and a reclining chair). mini/tongue

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You guys have winter break, I have a physically demanding full time job, I do enter contests to win, and I can't be competitive if I spend the whole day figuring out lighting. I still want to make a movie I can be proud of and I enjoy all me old THAC films, my goal is to push myself every time I make a film, even if it is a THAC film, and I NEVER what to release something that looks like a sitcom.

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My take on this is that if you want to make your film from scratch in 24 hours, have at, but there's no such thing as starting from scratch when you're making a film with LEGO characters. I'd rather not put myself at a disadvantage by making restrictions for myself beyond those that everybody can be held to.

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If I entered THAC I would have to make at least some of my sets beforehand. While it may not be much in the spirit of THAC, I'd find it difficult to cope otherwise. While I've been tempted THAC for years, I'm a very slow animator, and don't deal with stress well, so I'd have to do even a small amount of prep work to keep that at bay.

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The closest thing I do to preparation is clear my desk. Since I'm a writer anyway, I always have about five ideas swimming around in my head at one time. Sometimes when THAC comes around, one of these ideas is perfect - but most of the time I think up my THAC idea on the spot.

It shows, doesn't it?

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Re: Preparing for Thac Early? Yay or Nay?

I'm currently unable to edit films, so I'm preparing by looking for an editing software.  If I find one I might enter.

If I do I want it to be about robots, since robots have synthesized voices which are less troublesome than recording lines, and those robot voices also sound really funny. I've wasted too much time on voice in the past,  So maybe, maybe.

Also, if I get some editing to work, I'll have to move Darkmoor from my animation spot.  I really don't want to do it DURING THAC because it's such a big set that it will probably take me ten minutes to move the entire thing, and that's not something I'd like to rush because I'll likely break part of it.

Of course, right now I can't even locate that editing software I was going to use. mini/tongue

Last year I built like four or five sets in advance.  Just to be prepared for anything.  Since they didn't all fallow the same theme, it was obvious I wasn't going to use all of them, or perhaps anyone.  But building that many sets that fast was good practice.

In BRAWL this year I built most of the sets in the time, but I used several elements from the Darkmoor set which happened to be around, like the road and the Town Hall.

I was actually really leaning toward having a film about Ouskavar and the Crimson Gumdrop last year, but I the first story to pop into my head was the space idea once the time started, and I usually stick with the first idea.

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SlothPaladin wrote:

Ever since True Love Waits (the original THAC cut of that film is long lost)

That wouldn't happen to be this cut, would it?

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I've cleaned my desk and maybe i will make a set or a bunch of them. Remember that horror film idea i had about minifig heads? Yeah, i'm going to do something with it and hopefully make it fit with the chosen theme.

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sillypenta wrote:
SlothPaladin wrote:

Ever since True Love Waits (the original THAC cut of that film is long lost)

That wouldn't happen to be this cut, would it?

mini/eek I am so happy you have this! I thought it was lost forever, it's even worse then I remember! I guess we added more then I thought we did.

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I don't really care whether someone preps beforehand or not honestly. My brother and I have taken part in two THACs now, and we didn't do anything to prep for them though.

If someone want to build sets beforehand, more power to them.

If someone wants to ride the fence on whether they actually even want to participate, and then likely wake up late and decide they do and have nothing ready... well, to bad for me them. mini/frustrated